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Finding Work-Life Balance: Leveraging Strengths for Personal Wellbeing
Called to Coach

Finding Work-Life Balance: Leveraging Strengths for Personal Wellbeing

Webcast Details

  • What is work-life balance or work-life integration?
  • How can you and those you coach prioritize and be more intentional about work-life balance?
  • What clues can your dominant CliftonStrengths give you about how to find your center and maximize moments of contentment?

Called to Coach Webcast Series -- Season 11, Episode 21

Below are audio and video plus a transcript of the conversation, including time stamps.


Finding and maintaining a good work-life integration and thriving wellbeing can be as personal and unique to you as your Top 10 CliftonStrengths®. But this "just doesn't happen by accident"; you have to plan for it, says host Jim Collison. In this LinkedIn® Live webcast, Rose Bloomfield, Gallup Learning and Development Consultant, and Jim share some keys to prioritizing your wellbeing and being intentional about your work-life balance. In the process, they will help you diagnose and discover your own moments of centering and contentment that you can savor. Join us and be inspired as you move your life toward thriving.


Life -- and wellbeing particularly -- is a constant balancing act.

Rose Bloomfield, 7:48

It's about presence. Let your mind be where your feet are. I think that is revolutionary for Western society especially.

Rose Bloomfield, 21:26

Fun for me won't look like fun for the next person. ... So get super curious, and gather what's working. ... Focus on that little kernel that's feeling good, and let it blossom.

Rose Bloomfield, 29:21

Jim Collison 0:00
I am Jim Collison, and welcome to The CliftonStrengths® Podcast. On this podcast, we'll be covering topics such as wellbeing, teamwork, professional development and more. Now enjoy this episode. This episode was previously recorded on LinkedIn live.

Jim Collison 0:18
Hello, everybody, my name is Jim Collison. I'm Gallup's CliftonStrengths Community Manager. I'm here with Rose Bloomfield, and Rose, great to have you on the program today!

Rose Bloomfield 0:26
Thank you, Jim! Great to be here.

Meet Our Guest on This Episode

Jim Collison 0:28
Good to be here with you. And let's get to know you just a smidge. Before we do that, though, let me tell individuals, if they want, listening live, drop your Top 5 -- if you know it -- in chat, or let us know where you're listening from. I'll have a question for you here in a second. But, but Rose, let's get to know you a little bit. Tell us where you are, what you do for Gallup. What do we pay you to do?

Rose Bloomfield 0:47
Yeah, great question, Jim. Sometimes it's, it's just amazing that I do get paid to do what I do. So I'm based in Santa Monica, California, in the Los Angeles area. And I'm a Learning and Development Consultant at Gallup. So one of our colleagues, Amatoga Jeremie, likes to say that means the three C's: Course leading, Coaching, Consulting. We do those three.

Jim Collison 1:14
And you get to be, like, you are on the front lines with our customers and the courses and working with them in the coaching space. You get to see all that. What's your, so what's your favorite part? Like, what do you enjoy the most about what you get to do?

Rose Bloomfield 1:27
Ooh, great question. So yes, we are on the front lines. I was literally in Houston leading a Boss to Coach course yesterday and the day before. So I flew in last night; the flight was a little late. Perfect timing for a wellbeing chat, right? So what is one of my favorite parts of the job, honestly, I studied anthropology. I love humans. I love culture. I love our differences. So in this role, we have the privilege of entering inner sanctums regularly across industries across the world, be it virtually or in person. So I love the fact that I get to go and learn, you know, what does a credit union look like and operate as, versus a school district versus a governmental body or a Fortune 500® company? What do we have in common? What helps us thrive? What's getting in all of our ways? And what can I cross-pollinate for more of us to be thriving together, as we face these challenges that we have in front of us -- wellbeing and beyond?

Prioritizing Your Wellbeing

Jim Collison 1:30
Yeah, we're spending time -- the title is "Finding Work-Life Balance," right, "Leveraging Strengths for Personal Wellbeing" -- we're going to talk about that. Many of you are putting your Top 5 in chat, if you want to let us know where you're listening from, that's awesome as well. Then, we want to pose this question to you -- and I'm gonna ask Rose's question here in just a second, but -- we want you to put this in, in chat here on LinkedIn: How do you prioritize your wellbeing? So as we think about that, we're going to spend some time with some tips and tricks on this, but Rose, right up front, as you think about your own, how do you personally do this? How do you prioritize your wellbeing? What's working for you?

Rose Bloomfield 3:04
Yeah. So really good question. I'm very curious to see; I'm seeing a lot of fellow high Empathy® folk in the group here, as well as a fellow Rose. So what do I do to prioritize my wellbeing? When I am doing that, and what works for me, I actually had some coaching from a colleague, Linda Pandey, back in the fall last year. We were both talking about wellbeing, because our jobs can get really full. We travel a lot; we have a big plate to manage. So one thing is, especially when we do virtual work from home, I shut my computer while there's still at least an hour or two of daylight, and I get myself out for a walk. So this is completely strengths-based, I have high Empathy; it's my No. 1 strength. And I also have high Intellection®. So I like to think of the fact that I need to go take a walk to process my emotions for the Empathy; wring that sponge out. And then for my Intellection side, I need that quiet. And Connectedness® is my No. 9 strength, and this is where, like, time in nature really refuels me. So anytime in the Santa Monica Hills, Pacific Ocean, that's my, that's my big wellbeing boost.

Jim Collison 4:19
Yeah, I love the, so the prioritization aspect. And let me just say this again: We also want to know how you're prioritizing your -- when I say "you," I mean those that are listening. How are you prioritizing your wellbeing? Throw that in chat; we'd love to hear your comments of how you're doing that as well. I see Reilly, who is our producer behind the scenes, walking on her treadmill right now, as -- you guys can't see her. But as she's producing us today, she's walking on a treadmill. What a great example of she's prioritizing -- while she's working, she's got this opportunity to do some things that don't require her to be on camera. And so she has a walking office treadmill, and so she's there, she's there doing that. It's just a, to me, it's a great example of how you do that. I, like you, have to, at some point in the day, shut off the laptop. It, because I could be on it all day, like, and all night, for the most part. And so, physically, there are days when, as I prioritize, where I just turn it off. So I love the fact that you said that. It's, for me it's, it's, it's much of an emotional checkpoint as it is a physical checkpoint, to say, this part is done for right now, right, to do it that way. I don't know, any, any other thoughts on that, as you're thinking about prioritizing your wellbeing? We're going to get really practical here in just a second. But, but any other thoughts? Have you seen anything in chat that stands out?

Rose Bloomfield 5:39
Yeah, I mean, I relate a lot. Lisa, here, I think it's Rehagen, strength training, yoga. Carolyn says regular outdoor exercise, like, and talking to people. I also have high Woo® and Communication® like Kelsey here. So I call friends. I'm leaving voice memos regularly, especially if I'm leading an 8-hour course on my computer all day, right, and I've got those breaks between courses. That's when I'm gonna go and either call a friend, leave a memo, go walk around, be in sunshine. I mean, it's simple stuff, friends, right? It's simple; it's not always easy. Because it can be very addictive to stay plugged in and to be getting -- it's hard to step away. Right. So when I can, just getting outside to lay under a tree -- I'm, I'm definitely a nature person -- that makes a huge difference. Yeah.

Understanding, Being Intentional About Work-Life Balance

Jim Collison 6:30
Yeah, I actually, I'm, I'm going to talk about this more specifically in a second, from a strengths-based perspective. But that doesn't, that wouldn't be great for me. I'll go in the garage and clean something up. I, that, to me, that bring -- taking chaos and making it order. And I'll, I'll say, I'll talk about why here a little bit later, but, brings me great, brings me great joy. And so for some people, cleaning up's terrible. For me, it's centering, right. And, and so I, as a kid, I would, I would mess things up just to fix them. And so it was, it was one of those things that to me, that helps bring it back. Let's talk about this term, though, before we kind of dig in from a strengths perspective a little bit more, of this idea of work-life balance. And at Gallup, we've kind of used the phrase work-life integration in some ways. But Rose, talk a little bit about that. As you see this idea, what does that mean? How do we define work-life balance?

Rose Bloomfield 7:26
Yeah, I love that, Jim. I was on the plane last night, you know, in the, in the middle seat. And I was taking some notes for our conversation today, thinking about that term, specifically, because I actually don't use it a whole lot. I relate to the integration piece. But what I want to be very clear about is I do believe that life -- and wellbeing particularly -- is a constant balancing act. So I prioritize from our 5 Elements of Wellbeing. I know the ones that are most impactful for me that I keep top-of-mind: social, physical, career -- those three. And one might take the full focus for a week, a month, even a year, where I'm just putting a lot into that one area, because I know it's going to really affect the others. So that work-life balance for me, it might mean, OK, I'm going to travel more like a marathon for 2 weeks. And I work with a coach. I believe we all do need a coach, right? And she would say, OK, I know I'm going to, I'm going to have a very full schedule for the next 2 weeks. Can I go into that with a mindset of spaciousness? So I can either go into a busy week going like, OK, this is gonna be nuts. Or I can go into a busy week and say, I am going to find all the moments of peace. I'm going to breathe throughout all of my training. I'm going to be a model of how to live with balance while I'm working. Because we are -- and I say this to my clients when I'm on site with them; doesn't matter where we are in the world, or on Zoom. I say, "This is not a dress rehearsal. This is our life. Thank you for spending your life with me today." Like, this is it. So if we can be fully present, so much can bring us energy.

Jim Collison 9:17
Caroline in chat says -- or Carolyn in chat -- says, "I like to use work-life harmony." And what I heard from you, as you were saying that, is I think our wellbeing comes best when we're intentional. Like it can't just be default. I think sometimes we think, Well, life happens. I don't have any control. And I think we do have some ability, especially when we think about our CliftonStrengths, like, what we're good at, at being intentional. What I heard you say is, when I'm looking at the week ahead, I'm gonna set it up in a way that, one, plays to my strengths, but two, plays to my wellbeing goals -- the things that I really want to do. And I'm going to watch out for the signposts of peace. And when I've found them, I'm gonna rest in them. Right? That, that just doesn't happen by accident. Right? You have to kind of plan for that. Is that right?

Rose Bloomfield 10:10
100%! I actually, I just got chills as you said that, Jim, because one of the things, as I was thinking about our chat, was, What can I offer our community here that has really made a difference in my life? Because I don't know about anyone else, and I'd be curious to see in the chat, if you've dealt with anxiety before. When I was in my early 20s, it was a serious problem. I don't even want to say problem; it was a reality. And it was crushing at times, right? So depending on where we're starting from, we need to be really gentle. And there were some resources that really helped me, including keeping it very simple, like Jim, you just said, of how we rest in a moment that is restorative. So Tara Brach, I wonder if anyone here is familiar with her work, is one of my favorite meditation and mindfulness teachers. I listen to her meditations wherever I am in the world, and it brings me back to center. And she just offered 3 things we can do in a day. Can I offer that, Jim?

Jim Collison 11:08
Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it.

Rose Bloomfield 11:09
OK. OK. So really simple. And it goes back exactly what you just said. She says, the first thing is, when something is feeling good, we can rewire our brain for wellbeing. But we need to do it with about 5 breaths, because it helps our brain rewire to that positive state. Our brains are like Teflon for the positive and Velcro for the negative, based on our amygdala and the way we've evolved. So the way we let that sink in and saturate in our body makes a huge difference. So she says, if there's one thing you can do in the day, pause for even 5 breaths with something that's feeling good. Be of service -- one kind act in a day. And when you end the day, 3 things you're grateful for. And she puts that into 3 words, and it's gratitude, service and savor. I love that!

The 5 Pillars of Wellbeing

Jim Collison 12:00
Yeah, it's a good, it's a good reminder and a good framework to think about those things. And we all, as we, the chat's been coming in, everybody comes to this idea of wellbeing a little bit different. For those who don't know, we have two books, Gallup has two books on wellbeing: the original from 10 years ago, just called Wellbeing -- not the most exciting title, but that's what we gave it. So if you can find that, where we outline those 5 pillars of wellbeing. Can you, Rose, can you run through those really quick? When we talk about the 5 things, would you run through those, just for those who aren't familiar with it? Yeah.

Rose Bloomfield 12:33
Yeah, yeah, and I'm sure I've got friends who know this, and I know you do, Jim. So we've got, at the top of this, this 5-element, well, it's a wheel, the way we use it, but the one that's most exponentially powerful to affect the others is career wellbeing. So how you feel at work is the most impactful element you can supercharge to feel good in these other 4 areas. And those include social wellbeing -- how we are with our friends, family, close connections; financial wellbeing -- do we feel secure? Are we distracted by money or not?; Community wellbeing -- do we feel connected to our locality? Our neighbors? Are we able to volunteer, feel proud of where we live? And then physical wellbeing -- of course, do I feel distracted by pain or discomfort in my, in my body? Or do I feel like I've got energy to do the things that matter most to me in a day? Did I cover all 5, Jim?

Deploying Your CliftonStrengths to Maximize Your Wellbeing

Jim Collison 13:29
You did. You got them all. And there are more, like, but those are the 5 we, in all our research, we discovered that we could measure. That's the important thing about that. We created some questions that we could ask that we can measure that, right. Last year, 2 years ago -- I don't know, time is soup sometimes -- we, we released a book called Wellbeing at Work. And actually in that, Jaclynn Robinson wrote a bunch of -- Jim Harter and Jim Clifton, but Jaclynn writes the appendix in the back. We've spent a bunch of time with Jaclynn on the CliftonStrengths Podcasts talking about that in Season 1, but approaching wellbeing from a strengths perspective, right? How can these themes that we talk about bringing success to us at work, how can we deploy them in a strengths-based way to help our own wellbeing?

Jim Collison 14:16
You, you just said "savor," right? I love that word, by the way. You said "savor," live in the moment. I think for me, that has been a new thing, where I realized, this feels really good. And stopping for a second to just live in the moment. Like, I'm going to, you know, there was a movie called Walter Mitty where he, right, he learns to kind of just, he's in these, he's in these moments. And that actually became a family mantra for us. We'd say, "Walter Mitty it," right. You're there. Stop and enjoy what you have, right? I think from a strengths perspective, you like to savor. I have Arranger® high, Arranger-Maximizer®. I always like to be doing lots of things and trying to make them better. That's why cleaning up the garage feels good for me, right? And when I get done, you know what I do? I go back and look at it. That's the savoring. Like, it's, I know it's weird, but I stand there and look at what I just did. I, I piled up, I was cutting some wood for a fire, you know, for wood pile, and I stacked it up nice and neat. And I just stared at it. I savored in that moment, right.

Rose Bloomfield 15:26
Jim, I don't think that's weird at all, by the way. And I can imagine that many of us can relate. I don't have Arranger high. But I'm very aesthetic. And I think that comes back to if I were to call it, in any of my strengths. It's the Connectedness-Ideation®. I love beauty. I love order. So, and I've heard that put in, in many different mindfulness modalities -- where there's beauty to you, rest. And especially if there is a time in your life, and that work-life balance is teetering on the edge of burnout or overwhelm, can you find -- I'm going to just show you something that's on my desk, because I use my desk as a little temple of sorts. So we used the word savor. And I have this little pot that a friend gave me -- a plant. And that little word in there, savor, reminds me, right. It literally reminds me -- that's right. If there's something feeling good, something about what Jim just said, Can I really let that in? Tara Brach talks about a laugh of her friend that just sounds so beautiful. Can you really, like, appreciate and note, I love that. Yeah, so I just love that moment of you staring at your wood, Jim. I see it.

Jim Collison 16:38
Yeah, oh, the wood pile, the stack of it that, that, it's order, right. It was chaos before, and then it became order. I'm thinking about other themes, and as you think about folks you've been coaching, what, what other tactics or what other techniques have you seen other people use? Maybe tie it to a theme or some themes if you can, but what have you seen in your work, where other people have been successful in finding that rest, savor, whatever you want to call it, right, contentment?

Rose Bloomfield 17:10
Yeah, that balance or that harmony, I really do love that phrase. So the strength Strategic® comes up a lot. It's, it's a common strength to show up in our Top 5. And I work with clients a lot who have high Strategic, so we leverage high Strategic, and if we can, pair it with Responsibility®. That usually lends itself to a nice duo to say, OK, let's look at your calendar. Let's be real. And we've done this recently of calendar audits, friends. So if you want a little fun exercise, go back across the last couple of weeks, look at your calendar and take note. One person even color-codes this. Does this element in your planning bring you energy? Does it feel energizing or draining? Green/Red, if you want to color code, right? And then, what can you let go of that's in that red category? Anything you can say, "You know what? I'm gonna send someone for my team to do that. I don't need to be there at that meeting. Can I get minutes, whatever?" And can you put in there a block of time -- you will be such a hero if you manage to do this -- put in a block of time to do something that is just for you, to restore yourself based on your strengths.

Rose Bloomfield 18:24
For me, my coach recommended, like, one of the most luxurious things I could imagine, that is still -- I have to admit, I'll confess; I haven't done it yet. So I hope the next time we have a conversation, I'll tell you I did it. But it's going on the top of my roof with a glass of rose and a book. Something about those three things together, if I just had 30 minutes to an hour in the evening to do that, I feel like I've won, you know. So what is that thing for you? Is it arranging your garage? Is that the Arranger that just gets its hit there of ease? But putting that in the calendar and letting go of things that really are draining you, as much as possible, that's something that we use. And the responsibility is, can you have an accountabilibuddy? Is there someone you can call and say, I'm going to do this. Do you want to do something? Let's tell each other after it's done and how it went.

Fostering Wellbeing Conversations

Jim Collison 19:14
Yeah, we don't live in a vacuum. We have to work with others that are around us. And oftentimes, this kind of comes from a comment I saw in chat. We can have draining wellbeing experiences, if we're not aware of what's happening, maybe in a team setting, right? How important -- and we, we spend a lot of time thinking about this from a CliftonStrengths perspective of teams knowing their individual, those on the teams knowing each other's strengths. How important do you think it is that we spend some time talking about those wellbeing items, because we're spending so much time together? Have you, have you seen that work? Or just talk a little bit about, in the work that you do, how important you think it is that we start having some of those wellbeing conversations as well?

Rose Bloomfield 20:00
How big is my soapbox right now? Oh my gosh, I mean, that's a hot button for me for sure. I think it's very important. Let's keep it really simple. I think it's very important, not only because of what we see in literature that we've released, like Blind Spot, with this global rise of unhappiness, disconnect when we're going into flexible work. And I'm living that reality too, right? I've got high Woo, high Relator®. I need depth and breadth in my social interactions. And if I'm working at home for a full week, virtually, I have to be very intentional about how I give my strengths what they need to thrive, right? Because that's where I do my best work. So when teams are able to have this conversation together, you -- one of the best moments in a GGSC, our Global Gallup Strengths Coaching course, is the wellbeing section near the end of that course, when people get to think about, where am I right now, in terms of thriving? What will help me level up?

Rose Bloomfield 20:57
And when we can do that in a group or a community, not only does it overcome the gaps we're feeling of disconnect, but it helps us feel some of those engagement elements and needs being met of I'm cared about as a person [Q12® item Q05], right? I can show up and have a best day at work. And it helps me ask myself questions I might not have made the time to do on my own. I have to call something out that I'm seeing in the chat too, because I love this. Someone wrote somewhere, yeah, Gretchen -- It's not about balance. It's about presence. Let your mind be where your feet are. I think that is like revolutionary for Western society especially. Because we're such a "nexting" culture. High Achiever®, high Relator, high Strategic®; we see the future. But can we be where we are, and let it in? And with those wellbeing conversations, how do we support each other as a team? Even if it's, I think there's a company called Headspace™, and they take those moments of meditation as a team; 1 minute of silence together can make a huge difference.

Jim Collison 22:03
Yeah, for some, that's really awkward, to be honest. I might be one of those guys where, you know, going into, like a minute of meditation would feel very awkward. How do we push past? Like, there are things that are good for us, Rose, but that for whatever reason seem awkward, right, or seem uncomfortable. Should I learn to push through those things? Like if meditation is awkward to me, should I learn to push through it? Or should I find other things that are like that meditation for me, that get the same effect? I don't know, your thoughts on that?

Rose Bloomfield 22:40
Jim, no, no, I want to, I want to bounce that back to you. What do you think? What do you think on that? Have you had any success with, you know, pushing past the awkward, or what's the reality there?

Jim Collison 22:50
It's easy, and by myself, I'd, but I never do it. It's not, I tend to find relaxation in action, as opposed to quietness. That's just for me; that's just what I do. I think sometimes, too, we've taken on some social pressures of thinking we all have to do the same things to find, to get to the same place, right? Where that's just not true, right. And so for you, sitting on the rooftop with rose and a book -- did that I get that right? Are those the -- ?

Rose Bloomfield 23:19
No, you nailed it.

Finding Moments of True Contentment

Jim Collison 23:21
Would be, one, I'm afraid of heights. Two, not a big fan of rose. And three, I don't like to read. That works for you. For, for me sitting on the deck with a fire and a, and a, you know, and a libation of whatever is available there -- that's what I, that's where I find it, right. So can, so for me, it's just a little bit different. And I think for everybody, it's discovering that spot that, that works for you, when you find that true contentment, when you find that true moment. And I think the other thing is, we think that lasts forever, and it just doesn't. We got to get back to life. Right? There's other things that are happening, but those moments are important, right? You want to talk, can you talk a little bit about that?

Rose Bloomfield 24:03
Absolutely. And I think that question you asked is just so important. And it's very strengths-based, what you just said, right? We don't need to do, you know, no one here needs to go have a glass of rose on the roof with a, with a book, right? It can be the fire -- like you fill in the blanks for you. And maybe the reason I haven't done it yet, is maybe that's an idea in my head that actually isn't the ultimate thing. So what we do at Gallup is we study our successes. So when do I actually feel revived? And I'm asking all of us here, this community right now, what is one thing -- and I'll give you even a beat to think about that. What is one thing you did recently where you were like, mmm, that felt good, right? And for me, oftentimes and doing that gratitude practice of some kind in the evening, whether it's writing down, sending a text to a friend; that works really well, actually. From a positive psychology standpoint, sharing gratitudes with another person is very powerful.

Rose Bloomfield 25:10
What I find when I collect data at the end of the day in my gratitudes, is it so frequently comes back to the moment I spend with my cup of green tea. My cat, who was on the corner of the couch a moment ago, is on my bed, and I sip my tea and I pray. I meditate. I write a few things in my journal. That moment of quiet is something I savor every day of my life. And it repeats. So I asked, yes, I see Brandon say, alone time. Yes. You know, what is it for you? And we do all have these different ways. Active meditation, one person says to you, Jim, and you do have that. Cleaning the garage, absolutely. I used to arrange my bedroom, like, on repeat, I get it. So yeah, those are my thoughts. Jim, what about you?

Jim Collison 25:58
Yeah, no, I love the, well, let me, let me get to this question. Because I, Brook asks this question in chat. He says, What do you recommend when your feet want to run and be elsewhere, but you're literally stuck? Thoughts on that?

Rose Bloomfield 26:14
Thank you, Brook. So there are times in life sometimes -- oh, can you still hear me?

Jim Collison 26:22
Yep, yeah, we can.

Rose Bloomfield 26:23
Something just went blank for a second. There we go. But there are times in life when, for whatever reason, the conditions make it that we don't have the option to exit in that moment. So we can -- we have two choices there: We can fight it and resist it and hate it on the inside, which is causing what they say in Buddhist psychology, the second arrow. So the first arrow is the painful experience. And we all deal with pain. Pain comes up in life. Doing what we love includes the challenge, the pain point, the grit. But the second arrow is when we resist what is hard. And it's kind of like, oh, I need to go pick up groceries for my wife. I hate that I have to go pick up groceries for my wife. And all the noise we create in our mind, versus I'm gonna go do this. And I'm going to consciously remember why I'm doing it, because I committed to doing it. So, to Brook's question, if our feet want to run, is there a way I can compromise with myself in that moment to say, here's where I am; I need to be all in, to the best of my ability. What's anything I can do to make this more enjoyable, healthy, worthwhile for me, even if it's simply a mindset shift? Or if it's a treat at the end of the day? If I get through this, Netflix® and chill. If I get through this, garage, fire, whatever that is.

Jim Collison 27:46
Yeah, even a, even, yes, all those things. You asked me, and I find moments of having an amazing meal with people so, like, so centering. And it's just, you know, it's not, a lot of people, you know, I've been mentioning meditation, aloneness on a trail by themselves, music for a half an hour. I've seen all those. My, my, some of my best calm moments are actually in the midst of chaos with people. There's no better experience for me than six people enjoying the most amazing meal, and everyone's going, Oh, this is so great. It tastes like -- this is so good. Bring this, bring this in. Oh, try these things. That moment is so centering for me. So, and again, that Arranger-Maximizer for me, wanting to get the most out of chaos, right? There's, that, all those people is very centering for me. And so, as people are listening to this, I want to encourage, I want to encourage you: There isn't, in this area of wellbeing, a one-size-fits-all, right. It's a discovery process. Rose, as we kind of wrap this up -- this time goes very, very fast -- a few quick, like, in that discovery process, what have you found, with the folks you've worked with, what's worked in helping people discover these, these moments, these savory moments?

Rose Bloomfield 29:09
Yeah. OK, so kind of the confetti moment, friends, a few actionable things to take away from this conversation. And I really want to highlight what Jim just said, which is being very honest with ourself. Fun for me won't look like fun for the next person. Relaxation for me won't look like the other guy's. So what we want to do is have our eyes, our senses open, so that we go into our life collecting data. When something feels good, go, bing -- all of my sensors and data collection sensing is out. What about this is working for me? Jot it down. Tell somebody. The other thing is, talk about it, especially if you're a verbal processor, or you're a Relator. Go and have that conversation around the dinner table. Invite someone else into it, because we also work really well bouncing off of each other. Oh, I never thought about that! Can I be open to something new? The third thing that works well, that I have found for clients, is change is uncomfortable. So just prepare yourself that if it feels weird, doesn't mean it's bad. So if you're used to being a workaholic, and your work-life balance is kind of off, it's gonna feel strange to come back into balance with yourself, for a little bit. So get super curious, and gather what's working. Focus there, especially if you're dealing with anxiety or something else. Focus on that little kernel that's feeling good, and let it blossom.

Jim Collison 30:45
I love that advice. I think we'll record this, make it available as part of The CliftonStrengths Podcast, if you want to relisten -- and you should. This will be available on LinkedIn as well, if you want to go back and listen. We threw a lot out there. And Rose, I may, I, I've been, my whole life, I've been trying to meditate, and I've not been successful. But maybe you've inspired me. It's uncomfortable. It's change. Maybe I should, maybe I should try it again and keep at it, to see if I can get some benefits out of, out of it as well. Rose, thank you for coming on and being a part of our webcast today, our time on LinkedIn®. If you, if there's folks who want more information about CliftonStrengths, head out to, and all that information available, including the assessment -- I heard somebody, I saw somebody mentioning that in chat -- is available for you as well. Thanks for joining us today. And Rose, thanks again. Always great to be with you. Hang tight for me one second, but everybody else, with that, we'll say, Goodbye, everybody.

Rose Bloomfield 31:44
Thank you. Thank you, Jim. Bye, everyone.

Jim Collison 31:48
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